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By ERICA WERNER
Friday, November 06, 2009 at 1:25 p.m.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — House Democrats acknowledged they don't yet have the votes to pass a sweeping overhaul of the nation's health care system, and signaled they may push back the vote until Sunday or early next week.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., told reporters in a conference call Friday that the make-or-break vote on President Barack Obama's push to make health coverage part of the social safety net could face delay. Democrats were originally hoping to pass the bill on Saturday.

The apparent problem: Democrats have yet to resolve intraparty disputes over abortion funding and illegal immigrants' access to health care. They cleared one hurdle Friday when liberals supporting a government-run Medicare-for-all system withdrew their demand for a floor vote.

The White House said Obama regrets the delay but remains hopeful of getting an overhaul bill this year and plans to go to Capitol Hill on Saturday to try to rally support.

Hoyer sought to pin the blame for any possible slippage on delaying tactics expected from Republicans, who unanimously oppose the health care remake.

"Nice try Rep. Hoyer, but you can't blame Republicans when the fact is you just don't have the votes," said Antonia Ferrier, spokeswoman for House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio. Republicans could stall the bill by demanding roll-call votes on parliamentary matters.

Hoyer acknowledged that Democrats are still short of the 218 votes they need to pass the bill. "There are many people who are still trying to get a comfort level that this is the right thing to do," he said. "We're very close."

While Hoyer said he still expects a vote Saturday evening, he said he has put lawmakers on notice they may be called to the House floor Sunday afternoon, or even Monday or Tuesday.

House passage of the 10-year, $1.2 trillion legislation that extends health coverage to tens of millions of uninsured Americans and puts tough new restrictions on insurance companies would be a breakthrough for Obama's agenda.

Action on health legislation was slowed as senators waited for the Congressional Budget Office to weigh in on a bill written by Majority Leader Harry Reid in consultation with the White House and key committee chairmen. Senate votes could slip until next year, but in the House Democratic leaders pressed forward.

They expressed optimism that when it came time to vote, they'd have the majority needed to prevail in the 435-seat House.

Asked Thursday if she had the votes, Speaker Nancy Pelosi replied: "We will."

Pelosi and other Democratic leaders were finalizing language to bar federal funding of abortion and resolving a flare-up over the treatment of illegal immigrants in the legislation that had Hispanic lawmakers up in arms.

Members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus object to a provision in the Senate legislation — backed by the White House — that bars illegal immigrants from buying health insurance within a proposed new marketplace, or exchange, even if they use their own money to buy from private companies.

Illegal immigrants can buy private health insurance now, so some lawmakers say the White House position goes too far.

Democrats were trying to toughen prohibitions in the bill against federal funding for abortions in a way that would satisfy enough anti-abortion Democrats. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops was involved in the talks, but the issue was still unresolved Friday morning.

Federal law now bars government funds from being used to pay for abortion except in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother. The health care bill would create a new stream of federal money to subsidize medical insurance premiums, and the dispute is over how to apply the abortion restrictions to those funds.

Abortion opponents say language now in the bill is inadequate to ensure that only private dollars — not federal funds — can be used to pay for the procedure. Abortion rights supporters say if the bill gets much more restrictive, it would deny women access to a procedure now covered by many private insurance plans.

Hoyer said Democratic leaders want the health care bill "to keep the situation neutral," not shift the government's policy on abortion funding in one direction or another. But activists on both sides of the issue disagree on what it would take to meet that goal.

The House effort picked up two major endorsements Thursday, from the powerful seniors' lobby AARP and the American Medical Association.

The bill would cover 96 percent of Americans, providing government subsidies beginning in 2013 to extend coverage to millions who now lack it. Self-employed people and small businesses could buy coverage through the new exchanges, either from a private insurer or a new government plan that would compete. All the plans sold through the exchange would have to follow basic consumer protection rules.

For the first time, almost all individuals would be required to purchase insurance or pay a fine, and employers would be required to insure their employees. Insurance companies would be barred from denying coverage to people with pre-existing medical conditions or charging much higher rates to older people.

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Associated Press writer David Espo contributed to this report.

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illegals/remaining 4%

Posted by Mike Smith, TC - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 11:32 a.m.

First of all, hispanic caucus, your illegal constituants shouldn't be here anyway, so coverage for them is IRRELEVENT!! Secondly, Mr. President, what about the 4% (12,000,000 people) that arn't covered under your STUPID, not thought out, rapidly put together plan??? huh, moron, what about that! How about all you socialists that support this piece of crap, unconstitutional, illegal, legislation? huh, TWELVE MILLION PEOPLE STILL NOT COVERED!!! You bozo's that support this deserve the results. Death by washington. Nobama and all the rest of the moronic dumocrats are such CRIMINALS, they should be ashamed, but arn't cuz this is exactly how they are!

More Propaganda

Posted by Sarah Smiles, Syracuse University - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 7:50 p.m.

Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin would be very proud of the propaganda program from these socialists.

First of all, there is NO HEALTH CARE CRISIS!

If you wish for free health care, just go to the myriad of clinics and hospitals through out the USA - especially in places like the peoples republic of NY, CA, Mass, Vermont, Washington DC, etc, etc, etc.

There is, however, an INCONVENIENCE FACTOR. The poor don't the health care that Senators, Congresspeople, and wealthy folks. Because they haven't earned it. And why should the poor be inconvienced, after all. They have important stuff to do, right?

But don't let that bother you . . . in reality, President Obama's health care won't rectify this, either. It will just PAY FOR THE POOR, BY GIVING YOUR TAX MONEY TO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. That's all you'll get - more taxes if you work, free stuff if you are a lazy bum.

By the way, there is more than a century of STATISTICS (that is a form of math, Senator Schumer) that pretty much mathematically gives you what health care costs. We know, to the nearest few hundreds, how many folks of an age group or demographic (age, sex, race, ethnicity, etc) will succumb to almost any illness known to man. Statistician's KNOW how and when you will die, how many kids you have, and what you will probably die of - statistically. They even know how many self-professed gay folks are parading around - statistically few (couple %).

So the insurance companies know how much to charge, to ACHEIVE THE PROFITS THE WANT TO EARN.

The government could do the EXACT SAME THING. But that would cut out the middle-man - the Insurance Companies. Big Contributors to the Democrats. And the Republicans. Preserving their way of life at your expense.

So what shell is the pea under, President Obama? You tell me.

Rest in peace, intellect, hello graft

go down

Posted by kerri k, marquette - Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 7:33 p.m.

to washington and revolt. enough is enough. no one in washington is listening. theyre not doing what they were elected to do. no one wants a government run healthcare system or any government run anything for that matter and theyre all so power hungry they just ignore the nation. times up. time to step up.

h c

Posted by jon owens, florence - Friday, November 06, 2009 at 2:28 p.m.

the dems have to hand out more bride money to buy the votes they need. rep. lieburn is helping them because it is your tax dollars they are buying there votes with. the sellout of america by a corrupted congress.

NO NO NO!!!

Posted by Sharon N., Traverse City - Friday, November 06, 2009 at 2:10 p.m.

What's going on right now is exactly why this country is in the mess it's in!!! Right now, Pelosi, Hoyer & the President are trying to please "special interest" groups and "minorities" by tweeking the wording in this bill to please them all so they can get the 216 votes they need to jam this down our throats.
WHAT ABOUT THE MAJORITY!!! The majority that thinks this bill will not better our healthcare but will create a nightmare for our healthcare system, not to mention cost a mere trillion dollars!!!! We've lost the price tag somewhere in the conversation.
I'm sorry but I don't want my children and grandchildren having to pay for healthcare to illegals or to pay for abortions or to pay higher taxes for Medicare/Medicaid. Or, even more importantly, I want them to have quality healthcare for the rest of their lives, just like I've had!!! And, if this bill passes, we'll never see good, quality healthcare ever again. And we'll never get it back!!! And we're destroying it to please a few "special interests" groups so politicians can get there votes. What a sad state of affairs we have going on in our country today!!!
The founders of the great country are rolling over in their graves watching what they worked and died for!!!

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